Found an article at http://www.anti-feminism.com/ (now deleted!) which counsels men to avoid marriage — or at least to avoid marrying a feminist, which the author deems nearly impossible when it comes to Western women:
“If you want to have children and value the security and love that marriage has the potential to offer then you will vastly lower the risks of marriage by seeking a non-Western woman … As I said before, looking for a wife is a game of numbers and opportunities; it’s just like fishing. Now, the river of the feminist-indoctrinated countries has a high percentage of fish that are poisonous to you, but the river of the traditional countries is largely stocked with healthy and delicious fish. Which river will you choose to fish in? I’m not a hater of Western women and I am not saying this because I believe Western women are evil to the core. The reason that ‘no’ must be considered an option for men thinking of marriage is that the lifestyles, culture and expectations of Western women are now such that its an uphill struggle to successfully marry one. Even if we totally destroyed feminism tomorrow, its effects would continue for years.”
How’s that for a little controversy? Before some of my readers begin hyperventilating, let’s first sit back and work up some compassion for this clearly embittered lover. He does not seem to be the type who wants an unthinking doormat for a wife, so we can rule out the Archie Bunker motive. Nor is he someone who is operating from strong racial motives of any kind. The fact of the matter is that virtually all American women are feminists, consciously or unconsciously, and feminism is the diabolical arch-enemy of men and marriage. The traditional Christian man has little chance of finding an American-born lady who would not chew him up and spit him out upon his first assertion of anything remotely resembling “headship”. Of those women who have courageously begun to accept a traditional view of marriage after a lifetime of feminist indoctrination, most retain deeply rooted feminist instincts that can do a lot of marital damage before they are finally put to rest. Take Dr. Laura, for instance. She talks the talk, but can you imagine being married to the woman? The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak …
In my own experience I have only known a few classes of feminine women or girls. First, there was my grandmother, my great aunt, and the old-line Protestant women of their acquaintance who carried themselves with a most elegant and attractive femininity. Sadly, they did not succeed in “passing the baton”. Second, there were a few virtuous Mormon girls in high school, alone in a tumultuous sea of dysfunction and promiscuity. Third, there were the Vietnamese refugees in college — graceful, kind, confident, and gloriously feminine. I married one of the best of them. Fourth, there were the devout women of Russian Orthodoxy and Tridentine Catholicism whose radiant femininity was nurtured in the shadow of the Blessed Virgin. These I encountered only at the end of a long journey.
The topic is important, because many of us will have sons of marriageable age in a few short years (if we don’t already). What advice shall we give them? How will they find wives? It isn’t really that Western men should look for non-Western wives, but that all men should seek non-feminist wives, and today it is likely that many of these will be foreign-born. Still, finding a wife with a non-Western upbringing isn’t enough. Contrary to the ridiculous opinions of some commentators, immigrants today assimilate faster than ever thanks to public education, corporate publishing and advertising, and the steady corrosive influence of our ubiquitous mass anti-culture. It is necessary to find a refuge from all of this in order to keep marriage safe from feminism.
It is true that the majority of today’s rootless young men, like the author of the article above, have very few options. But the sons of traditional Catholics should fare much better. In my opinion it is vitally important to belong to a traditional community that is large enough to produce a decent variety of potential spouses for one’s children. Arranged marriages should not be out of the question. If wives cannot be found there, don’t give up: send your boys to Thomas Aquinas or Christendom where their chances of meeting someone wholesome are pretty good. Many immigrant communities are also worth considering, whether Filipino or Lebanese or whatever, provided your sons can hustle their wives into an orthodox Catholic enclave somewhere fast before assimilation takes place. Unfortunately most immigrant groups tend to trust the schools and the media too much and don’t really provide a viable counter-culture. And then — some of you aren’t going to like this — there are the fundamentalist Protestants. Many of these sectarians have preserved a Christian sense of femininity within their families and have insulated their daughters from popular culture. Sometimes their daughters can be enticed to convert for love. Finally, single men shouldn’t rule out the possibility of finding a late-in-life convert who is serious about traditional marriage. With grace, all things are possible.

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Men should DEFINITELY say NO to marriage. The article on the link below is merely one of the reasons why:
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20060418.html
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Yes. Men should absolutely, unequivocally say no to marriage given the raping they get in the family court.
The truth is that more than 67% (no, not 50% – do your homework) of marriages will end in divorce. 92% of the time it will be initiated by the woman for no other reason than she is “unfulfilled” – oh, and because she gets the kids, the house, at least ½ the assets and most of his future after tax income for the next 18 years. The man will get raked over in family court. He will lose the house and his kids. He will see his kids 2 out of 14 days (if the ex doesn’t level unsubstantiated “abuse” claims.) He will be forced to hand over 40-50% of his take-home pay. If he loses his job due to illness or downsizing, the State will toss him in jail. While jailed the arrearage will grow and the state will charge interest. The State will revoke his driver’s and professional licenses, make him virtually unemployable.
If you were to take up sky-diving, and the instructor informed you that 67% of the parachutes were defective, would you take the plunge?
The men’s Marriage Strike is alive and well, thank you.
nomarriage.com
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Men should definately say no to marriage.
Women don’t marry men because they love them. Women only marry men because laws allow women to take unfair advantage of men.
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You guys make very rational points. But America and this westernized culture has a strong influence on other countries through globalization and the popularity of the American media.
I witnessed this while I was in Nigeria. I saw the younger people getting away from the traditional culture and being engaged by the entertainment and influence of the US media. The young people started to frown upon their traditional culture and thought highly of Americans and wanted to imitate the US culture.
I say all of this to ask one question. What happens if the whole world gets caught up under the infuence of this feministic American culture?
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Agreed with Chris . . . you’re a fool if you marry or have a child out of wedlock with a typical Western woman. Check the statistics–at least 70% of divorces are initiated by women. Typically, women press hard for marriage, then bail out with the kids and assets only to hook up with another dummy. Don’t fall for it. Divorce preparation for women is a whole industry. Don’t believe me? Check this out: http://www.divorcedefense.com/
Solution: Don’t get married. There’s no valid reason for it any more. But if you insist on getting married, find a women that actually grew up in a culture that hasn’t been poisoned by feminism. That eliminates the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Japan, Europe including Scandinavia, and most of Asia. Potentially good places to find a traditional women are Mexico, Latin America, and certain sections of Southeast Asia such as Vietnam, Thailand, and the Phillipines. Good luck!
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I’m not agreeing to say no to marriage, I’m argreeing to say no to femminism. Women are made for nuturing and takeing care of their family. Men are made for sheltering and making sure the family can eat. Women now work full time jobs and then complain about the laundry and whose going to take the kids to soccor practice. Well they don’t understand that if they would do the job they were made for, which is take care of the family,they wouldn’t have these problems and wouldn’t cause so much pain to the family. They might have to give up thier fancy home for one that’s more practical, then they would give men a better chance of getting a job. I used to think that I wanted a career, All I want now is a husband who will provide for me and our children, I want to be a stay at home mom and take care of the more important aspects of life. No I will not be on the couch eating bon bons watching opra, I’ll be cleaning, cooking and home-schooling my children. I’ll be teaching them how to aviod femminist women and how to be good citizens in a world of so many corrupt people.
If the women who give themselves to any guy that walks up, continue this behavior, they will make all women look like narcissistic hookers, and who would marry that.
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Its too late. White men are oppressed victimised, especially in the workplace. No man I know has even the faintest wish to take on the responsibility and sheer financial gamble that is modern marriage.
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Marriage is not worth it !!!
Monday march 17th today the British court announced that Heather mills paul mc cartney’s
Ex wife to receive 46.5 million dollars of his money perfect example of getting raped in divorce court whether he had the money or not she gets it just because she was married to him f@%$#n please
and the list of women not to marry include the uk
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I married someone who seemed faithful, was raised in a charismatic church, who said she wanted a traditional marriage. Since then, I’ve been through 8 years of hell.
Marriage is not worth it. You will get screwed in court, more if you’re a decent, hardworking guy who refuses to lie and cheat.
If she cheats, and you divorce her, you lose everything. If you cheat, and she divorces you, you lose everything. You can be put in jail on a whim, and many divorce attorneys advice their female clients to file for protective orders.
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The problem stems from “equality” having been misconstrued in the West to mean women should try to be men. This was in some strange way related to a deep seated idea that they had, until the mid 20th century been treated badly. (Some of them had been, but the response was still odd!)
Equality should surely mean that women have as much liberty and license to express their femininity as men do their masculinity! When and where that occurs you get balance, harmony and teamwork as you will see anywhere in nature.
As a heterosexual male, I love women who love being women. And I also love women who love what being a woman does to a heterosexual male. I’m not talking dirty, I’m talking natural, organic attraction.
That is why, after two failed marriages to Western women, I am now very happily married to, and in love with, and much loved by, a beautiful Asian woman. She loves being a woman and a wife, and she makes it an absolute delight to be her husband.
Under those conditions, I readily said “yes” to marriage, and I would commend the same formula to my male Western counterparts!
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i find it wrong , for women to rape a man for his hard earn honor
they play the court, and now society is full of men who cant trust women. first of all men make it easy on yourselves, get er done
get cut, no kids, shut women down, if you hear the baby word run, cover your losses, stash the cash, i convert all mine to euro’s and stash it -(has more value then the green back) be honest with yourselves, you dont want kids, get cut, no biggey, but the court cant do a DNA on ya to prove something , lol, I loved my wife she knew i did, she cheated got preggy, busted. Bitch! judge said i had to giver her half, ok, she never knew i had half of what i had in Euro, headed to France sucker, Later! never knew what happen to her. oh well, no loss,
siincerly cant have kids living in Monte Carlo
life is GOOD!
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In the newly formed United Socialist States of America, marriages and families exist only at the discretion of women. They choose if “their” child lives or dies. They determine if a relationship blossoms into marriage, and subsequently, how long “their” marriage will endure. If at any moment they are dissatisfied with “their” man, they are at once encouraged to discharge him and dissolve the family, which is, after all, “theirs” to dissolve. After the inevitable divorce, American women routinely grant or deny the “dead-beats” weekend visitation with “their” children, subject to various rules and limitations, and at a very high price to the “dead-beats”. All this and more at the
Court’s blessing.
The result of this is quite predictable. American men begin steering clear of marriage. Society falters. The State intervenes. But in the end, it will be women, not men, who
save marriage. The good women of America, for mostly selfish reasons, and not altogether bad ones, for the sake of their daughters and sons, will recast marriage in a more durable light. They will, they must, attract men back into matrimony with the promise of love and faithfulness, no matter what the cost.
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You’re living in cuckoo land mate. Too late. No man would marry a Western woman now. They’re poison.
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Well I live in Australia in a de-facto relationship. It was just the two of us, now, out of the blue, she is getting custody of her two youngest kids that have lived with her ex for years. She brings them hear to live. New laws coming into effect next month give her leverage in property settlement based on the fact that she has kids to support, never mind the fact that he will be paying child support. Should we end up splitting up, she will be able to get half of everything we have, including rental properties that were mine, lock stock and barrel, before I even met her. She may also be able to get me to pay her maintenance. I just recently discovered that while I’ve been working my arse off up to midnight at night……..she’s been at the pokies blowing away thousands…….38 grand over 7 months. She has a part time job 15 hours a week……been living her rent free………..bill free for 18 months………..nearly one year of that not working…….and no kids here either then. Now these new laws have taken away my right, and my adults sons right……….to my property. This is feminism……..women stealing, and using men for financial gain. Limit yourselves to short…………non living together relationships……..and knock them off before the two year mark. Western women are good for nothing except whores with an unkown price tag.
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Stu, you moron, how long is this ongoing??? Get the hell out of there asap!
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Stu…get rid of her !!! now !! there is too much available pussy to worry about her. Start doing what many of us are now doing. Finding single women, leading them into their delusions and then once we have had enough leaving them and well before any court can award them something. Brothels are great. Beautiful women who will spread themselves for you. An hour of no hassles but wonderful sex. Cheaper than nappies for a month, taking your fat ugly hag out for a meal or paying for anything the fat cow wants. Variety is the spice of life. Enjoy it. Don’t be a loser like many Australian men. Enjoy your freedom. I am
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Hello mat! Calling from singapore. My countrymen have been doing what you recommend for years, going to nearby brothel in offshore island and southern thailand for a rumble in the sack. No string attached no questions ask. I’m not marry. Thank God!! Seen too much shit and encountered too many divorces among friends and colleages. It was heart-wrenching – for the men that is. You said australia bad, come to singapore and meet some of the women! Some female coworkers I work with are purely psychotic, I don’t have to dwell into their life to have a glean of their private life. Every time I read some of the horror stories or personally encountered some of these weirdos it make me glad that i was single and most of all off the dating game. Well, money is always better and warmer in your pocket than gave grudeingly generously in a divorce court. or a date who take you for a …
I have friends extremely intelligent and highly qualify professional bec of their family shit and messy divorce became just a shell. It seen that marriage sack their inspiration and dream but divorce destroy them thoroughly.
Some silly full grown men still think that they need to have a blood line . . . a son to pass down their name or someone to look after them in their old age. The children or the wife. They need to rely on someone! Most such thing don’t happen! Instead I have save the $$$ for dating, marriage upkeep, feeding little pasaistes for my retirement, insurance, flat, stock,share etc. Not extremely wealthy in any sense but it will me thru if i retire in 5 to 10 years time.
I’m only 43 years old.
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I am in 100% agreement with most of these comments.
I tell my three sons, there is NO benefit for an American MAN to get married. It is a lie from the church and society.
Women as a whole are truely evil. I almost envy them. Of course that is from the single MAN’s sideline.
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Must of been a reason for the Lord Jesus NOT to have married in 33 years?
Yes, because he did not want to SIN !
See I still have my sense of humor in tact, even though my kids were stripped from me. Not to mention monies also.
Funny my X has been married 3 times, divorced 2 times and has had 8 children from 3 different MEN that I know of. Yet she takes her kids to church everytime the doors are open.
Is this bs or am I the only MAN who thinks like this?
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Great comments, I have never been married and at 59 I sure as hell am not going to do it now. Last thing I need is some women taking a huge chunk of what took me a lifetime to acqure in a divorce settlement. Women will divorce you in a heartbeat. I live in the US.
Why the hell are guys so damn stupid though when it comes to this? I cannot count how many women I have seen over the years marry, divorce, remarry, divorce, remarry again. No matter how many times they divorce (and they initiate 90 percent of the divorces) they always have some stupid ass guy waiting to marry them again! Why the shit would any man marry a women who already has been divorced 2 or 3 times already.
Men, get smart !!! start thinking with the head on your shoulders and go back and reread the comments above, memorize them if you have to.
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I have a very comfortable income and I make much more money than most other males my age. The idea of jeopardizing that for “love” is not an appealing one. I have many other friends who are doctors, lawyers, etc. and every single one of them has gone through a bitter divorce. So what are the chances that marriage is a wise decision when I have yet to see one person from my generation have a successful marriage?
I can’t stand feminists. I encounter them fairly frequently at my job and I have to say that I avoid women because of it. If I have to meet with a female subordinate, I have either another woman stay in the office or I videotape and tape record the interaction. Growing up in America has left me with a healthy distrust of women, and I could lose my job if a woman brought up any kind of claim of sexual harassment against me. Which is why I rarely speak with female co-workers, and when I do, I will ask them to remain professional if they flirt with me at all. The women at my work lately have started rumors that the reason that I’m not interested in any of them is because I am homosexual, because the only way that I could ever resist their wiles is by being gay! It’s really quite pathetic.
When I go out on a date with a woman, she wants to know how much money I make/what my career is. I usually tell women I’m a teacher, and you should see their faces turn in disgust when they imagine me in a non-lucrative career. From that moment on they come across as extremely closed off. Guess I can’t afford her on my teacher’s salary.
Will I ever get married? Doubtful. But if I met a great girl who wasn’t poisoned by feminism I might consider it. I have everything I need, great friends, family and co-workers, I’m pretty content not bothering with women. When I do date it doesn’t last long because I’m not one for being constantly belittled/nagged at. I still don’t understand why women think that making the relationship one of constant fighting, bickering, and misery is going to lead to marriage. I can barely take 3 months of that, how could I ever take 10+ years of it?
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You won’t meet one, my friend. Western women are pure evil. They only want one thing. You are only there to be the walking wallet.
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All these comments are great! I am in complete agreement with them. I love going to the bar as a”muscular” middle aged man and give the “ladies” the hell that i got as a young man!
More power to ya brothers.
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I’m a little shocked to read all this. Especially Tracey age 20. Whats with the hate for feminism, aren’t women allowed to reach the same opportunities as men? I think it is fantastic that you are willing to devout yourself to your family and your husband. But I also believe that once you are 35 with three screaming kids you will look at your everyday life and think something is missing.
I myself am going to get educated, start a career and kick ass! And in order to do that I think it is very important not to get married. So yes, I say no thanks to marriage as well but this from a womens point of view. I think most men posting on this board are a little too paranoid and have obviously had horrible experiences with awful/greedy women, but dudes, chill the f out I mean, way to go on labeling all of us? Who says all of us are willing to marry a repressive husband who would rather have us chained in the kitchen to your snotty and ugly kids? Yeah right, no thanks to marriage.
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Katrine, i wish you good luck with your career and i’m sure you’ll “kick ass” as you’ve put it. Once you turned, say 40, and you’ll still say the same i’ll will believe you. But not now
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Your attitude is precisely why men should never marry.
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So….
It’s a good idea when accompanied by the “you go, grrl” speech, but not so much when men are the ones saying no.
Yup…I expected as much.
Methinks that when Katrine hits 35 and she is just too fabulous for the room, she’s gonna be the one with a womb full of aging eggs, and an acute onset of baby rabies.
Has anyone here read a single article, on-line or in print, written by a man who bemoans his decision not to get married? Me neither. There are however, plenty of them written by women who find themselves at the mercy of their raging hormones at just about that age, no husband, no kids, no family. Oh sure, go ahead and get yourself inseminated and have a kid or three out of wedlock. You’ll be raising another little thug or thugette to fill the nations prisons in the years to come.
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Katrine’s, comment is very common and typical of feminism. The feminsts women tend to rationalize there agenda with any woman that disagrees with there morale and beliefs on marriage and the expectations of a traditional wife. I can’t even begin to describe how big this problem this is in the African American community. This problem has been going on for several decades! I think the feminsts problem as spread across the board and is effecting all men white, black men in America. The cool thing about it is, it brings men of all ethnic backgrounds to unit for one common cause and to stand by our fellow man. Now , the new trend is the white women want black men and the black women want white men for there own personal and selfishness agenda’s to fulfill. They are all evil and un trustworthy, no matter the scenario. The way I deal with it, is… I’ll lay with any of them, I don’t discriminate! It’s all good! But I won’t marry them….(hell no) I’ll invest my money and trust in a non western wife… Google (nomarriage.com) and Marc Rudov has alot of strong information on the issues discused on this blog.. Men prepare yourselves..
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Hell no. As a 26-year old black american male in the U.S. Military i have absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose if i get married. You think its bad for guys in general, you should see the brutal raping military court lays on a man in addition to what the civilian justice system does. Its just not worth the agony. Maybe when women wise up and realize guys aren’t going to be thier personal doormats marriage will return, but personally i think its an outdated institution that is on its way to extinction.
-Johnathan
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U.S. soldier- Man I totally understand and the funny things is I just turned 30! Women were not half this bad when I was in Highschool, it just amazing how these changes have changed our society so rapidly. The instituition of marriage is slavery for men across the board and when men would say this in my early twenties, I just assumed they were bitter lonely men, that could not get a date! Man, I was confused by the feminists agenda and realized it was more deeply rooted problem in our society. I don’t have any kids, never been married and I don’t trust western women no further than I can see them in front of me.. America is all fucked up, I think it’s a disease among women not a cure. Anyway, men have plenty options and can travel and marry abroad(overseas) a traditional women with moral and values. I recommend it for all western men at this stage in our society.
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learned everything i needed to know about marriage from my father who divorced my mother!!…. for a host of reasons.
when my first wife went crazy, about 2 months after we were married my dad gave me this advice… ” do not spend the best years of your life trying to fix a problem you cannot fix” those words changed my life and i immediately divorced my wife!! my only regret is that i didnt do it sooner. like the week after we were married, yes the drama started that soon, and she left with what she came with…. NOTHING!
Im now married to an asian lady who acts like a lady and treats me like a king; that being said, im still ever watchful for signs of drama and the very first issue that comes up will be the last one,. believe it. as much as i love her, i will tolerate no drama. none. and let me add this; im african american, you men should pay close attention to whats happening in the black community. “we” are the canrey sent in to see if its safe to breath… and its not. you wonder why 70% of black women are single??? we, blk men, have figured it out, and at great cost i might add. i would think long and hard before i even took an american woman out for coffee, and i would marry a green two headed martian before i ever dealt with a blk woman again. sorry if it sounds harsh but thats just how it is. the marriage strike is real. it is probably the best option we have. do not get married but if you do make sure you get a passport first!! there is a better world with better people, there really is. make better choices.
ciao
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rooseveltFranklin – Your speaking to the choir man, well said.. I’m relocating back to japan in March 2010.Yes, the marriage strike is alive and real. I would not dare marry any western woman, self suicide!! lol peace..
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I was married for 25 years. She suprised me with a divorce… I was a good husband/father… no drinking, lying, cheating, etc. She used the legal system to pound me flat, put me out of my house and into an apartment, took my daughter from me and interfered with visitation, made false allegations toward me, money… assets, pension… she got it all.
I know better now. Once I completely clean her and her legal system out of my life I’ll be free again. I’m going to stay free too. I could say any man stupid enough to get married today with the existing laws deserves the punishment he’ll receive… having been through it, no one deserves to be put through that, no one.
Bottom line… live with her, love her… just DON’T marry her.
Mr. Ed.
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If you are getting married I have the perfect gift for you. The legal
manual for family law. Forget about everything you heard. With a one in two chance of divorce you will more than likely need this. However, don’t think knowing the law will be a complete defense
because the family court system does discriminate against men.
YOU WILL BE HOUNDED and tracked down like a dog. If she isn’t pregnant, please run for your life. Read the blogs of divorce men throughout the US. NO JOKE.
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Men are so slow to learn this lesson because the majority of men still refuse to believe that we now live in a matriarchy, and that our rights are vanishing.
Most men still don’t realize that most states have common law marriage: meaning “live with her” equals legal marriage after an arbitrary period, usually a few months. And guess who the family court is going to side with when you try to wiggle out of that one?
It’s time that men dropped the lone ranger/lone wolf fantasies that worked for cowboys in the 1800s and advanced into the 21st century reality: both genders now wear pants, drive truck and spit. The only real differences between the genders are now down to legal rights: women have all the privileges here because our fathers and grandfathers were VERY MUCH complicit in handing everything over to them.
We must now decide whether we’re going to start banding together in brotherhoods or wait until the feminarchy forces us into the slavery of modern marriage. These are our choices. Dropping out individually and disengaging doesn’t do much … that’s like throwing a speeding car into neutral as a strategy to stop it from plunging over a cliff.
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There is just no sane or rational reason for any man to get married these days. Divorce is inevitable.
And after a divorce, you’ll lose all your hard earned money and property. Talk about adding insult to injury. Not only can a woman unilaterally divorce you, thereby breaching her end of the marriage contract, but the family couts will actually reward her for it.
And if kids are involved it gets even worse. Your ex-wife will be granted custody and you will be rquired to pay “child support”. This is a joke because there is nothing to stop your ex-wife from squandering the money instead of spending it on the children. The courts will turn a blind eye if she does. But God help you if you’re so much as a day late or a dollar short. The courts will treat you like a cash register without a protector; a politically safe target whose pockets can be picked with impunity.
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“If you don’t marry, you can’t get divorced.”
Hi fellas. I find these posts to my liking! Reminds me of poor brothers who got married and are now looking like 2 miserable sods. Before my they got married, I looked up to them, respected them, idolized them. Today these same brothers I married look tired, worn out, and rather effeminate.
I believe that marriage with a Western woman places a huge burden on the shoulders of modern men, and it’s usually the men who have to pay out when it doesn’t work out.
I enjoy my single status. If a woman comes along who I think will fit into my ante-feminist way of life, I’ll make a home for her. But note… I’ve got no time for power struggles, mind games, and whole lot of drama with these Western bitches.
(Note that it isn’t these bitches fault for becoming who they are. Blame our screwed up forefathers for that.)
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what a borring discussion?
Talk about both, “man and woman” who suddenly change personality because the society tells them so.
Suddenly marriage is out, lets have lots of flings. Shall we? and destroy all that we have built and invested on.
The laws are just right for this country. They should be even more taxing on men.
Tizab
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You obviously haven’t been paying much attention. It should have become clear to you after reading this post that the laws are not ‘just right’, and that current laws already tax men too much. That’s why they’re saying no to marriage and family. This is the problem I have with feminists. They claim they want ‘equality’, then they lobby for laws that reward women and punish men. They talk out of both sides of their mouths. Since a wife’s responsibilities end after a divorce, a husband’s responsibilities should end also. A mother should be legally required to support the children if she is the one seeking legal custody. Awarding sole custody of the children to the mother after a divorce, involves forcibly severing the father-child bond and curtailing a father’s natural paternal rights. And when rights disappear, duties disappear as well. I’m so sick of hearing about the so-called ‘plight’ of single mothers. Being a single mother is a choice for many women. So if it’s too difficult for them, they have only themselves to blame. Their difficulties are self imposed.
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I read through all these posts and just say wow. I am a woman that has been divorced once due to abuse, and am in a ten year relationship, where we have both agreed to no marriage. I am a homemaker and I work online from home, plus homeschooling my children.
My ex-husband severely abused my children (drugs, sex and violence) once we separated and the courts would not protect them. You wouldn’t believe what I went through fighting him and now he hasn’t seen them in four years because he chose not to straighten up (the kids were old enough to say no more) and owes me many thousands in back child support with no help from the courts. I took/wanted nothing from him other than the child support to help with the children that he claimed he also wanted.
I have to say both sexes are equally to blame for the collapse of marriage and I am personally disgusted with both. I have yet to meet a male or female that I would deem “marriage” quality. As for brothels etc., I know that many men (not all men) end up feeling very empty eventually in their lives because there is a natural craving for real intimacy and partnership for both sexes though it is needed and wanted on different levels and in different ways. I hate the feminist movement and I also hate that men OK porn and “masculinity”, unless they are single or upfront and honest about it. Men are equally overpowering with their “masculinity” as women have become with “femininity”. I have a feeling things will never be as both sexes “wish”, so, we live and then we die.
As for the comment about Jesus Christ, they are supposedly finding archaeological evidence that he may have married and had children. Will we ever know the truth? I doubt it.
I guess I am odd as a woman in this day in age but I don’t care about the judgments and am not one to “follow the crowd”. And, just so you know, I am considered attractive by most men so I am not this way because of insecurity or a low self-esteem.
After my somewhat long explanation, lol, I say both sexes should say no to marriage.
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I wish we had a movement like this, and easy internet access, back in 1990 when I got married. I hate to say “never” but, I NEVER plan to marry again!! Once was enough!
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Interesting posts. I agree with most as my wife unilaterally broke up our marriage/family – incidentally I never lied, cheated, no substance abuse, etc., I was a very devoted husband who earned a good living. Feminism… well my ex decided over time she was the head of the household. It got to the point where she gave orders and refused to discuss anything to reach a win-win solution — she preferred win-lose with me losing. Women want equality, but refuse to acknowledge if everyone were equal in the workplace (meaning no administrative ladder) it would be total chaos. Shared leadership sounds good in principal, but the reality is it only works to a degree as long as both people respect and value one another’s input. My own brother has tremendous difficulty in his marriage… I asked what are the rules, whose in charge when push comes to shove? He said, “Uh, no one.” I said “if you went to work and it was that way, how would it work?” He looked perplexed and said, “Well, it wouldn’t.” I responded with “and yet you expect it to work with your marriage.” He was very thoughtful to say the least.
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I have no sympathy anymore for my fellow men complaining how they got raped in divorce and family court after being warned many times over that there was a good chance of this happening to them. They laugh at you and tell you you are bitter, paranoid etc.
Men stop complaining how bad it is and do something: Marriage/baby strike, foreign women only, move to foreign country, snip the tubes, hit it and quit it. And never ever marry, and also watch out for palimony. There is a societal war going on right now and men are losing big time, and it it TOTALLY our faults for being so stupid.
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I think almost every foreigner will become indoctrinated after 2-3-4 years living in US. That’s the big problem with the foreign wife. More, some of them (like europeans) are already half-brainwashed from their home countries. That’s because feminist ideas spread fast in all Europe. Just an outsider’s opinion. My respect for smart (and sane) american men.
Greetings from East Europe
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I DON’T WANT TO BE OR SOUND LIKE JUST ANOTHER BITTER MAN, BUT DAMN YOU GUYS ARE ON TARGET!!
MARRIAGE IS NOT A FUNCTIONAL INSTITUTION IN A SOCIETY WHERE WOMEN MAKE THE DECISIONS AND MEN BARE THE RESPONIBILITY.
I MARRIED TWICE. 4 KIDS!!! AGED 20 DOWN TO 3.
YEAH, I KNOW!!!!
I DEARLY LOVE MY CHILDREN BUT IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER ” AND I DON’T” I WOULD HAVE STAYED A BACHELOR.
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Men age like wine, women age like milk.
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I would agree with the notion that men should stay away from marriage. I could only stand it for 10 months and got out. I was very disappointed. I really thought it would be like my parent’s marriage. My mother was by no means a doormat. In fact, she was quite outspoken. At the same time, however, she was kind-hearted, practical, and valued my father’s opinion and treated him like an adult and a partner.
My experience was very different. I didn’t know how entitled, man-hating and mean-spirited my wife was until a week after the honeymoon. Man, did I feel conned! As soon as we got back, she was drawing up plans for kids, a new house, and she even quit her job two months after we were married. She even went as far as to blame me for her quitting her job; a disagreement that we had over the previous weekend put her into such a bad mood that it provoked her to scream at her boss and walk off the job.
“It doesn’t matter anyway”, she said. “This will force YOU (referring to me) to learn how families live on one income”. As if my life before her was all selfish and void of any kind of real responsibility. She carried the attitude that serving HER wishes and demands was the only way to redeem myself, after a life of selfish male-singleness, and was the only way to attain selflessness. I guess my weekends and some weekday nights of volunteer work didn’t count for anything.
She then traded her old Corolla in for a brand new Matrix. Her reasoning was that WE needed a new car to put the kids in we would be having soon. “Used cars (of any kind) are dangerous to drive kids in”, was her rational.
The above examples were just a couple of the outrageous behaviours of my now ex-wife. Over the next 10 months she made every attempt to wear me down to her demands through scolding, shaming, bitching, screaming, withholding sex, and conducting bitching sessions with her mother for 3 hrs on Sundays….the “spoiled princess” behaviours were endless.
The last months were absolutely miserable for me. I couldn’t do ANYTHING right, according to her. She also threatened divorce if she wasn’t pregnant in the next 6 months. There was a long pause of silence between us as I thoughtfully stared at the wall. Then turned to her and said, “Okay”. I got up, went to the bedroom and packed a bag. On my way out, she was still sitting on the couch, watching me leave with a look of disbelief I’ve never seen on anyone else.
That night at the hotel, I got the best sleep I had had in over a year.
If I had stayed married to her, I would have been broke and in a mental institution by now!
Now, of course there are marriages out there that are not as bad as mine was. But next time you are in a department store or a restaurant and you see a family, observe how tired and beat-down the husbands look.
This feminist culture is putting more and more demands on men to rid themselves of anything masculine and to sacrifice their earnings, ambitions and soul to increasingly unappreciating women and children…and they had better not complain, either, or else!
It seems like the only real power we have left is to just say “No!”.
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Right On Brother!
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You are feeling threatened. When once upon a time, your muscles were all that you needed to fend off an attack by a wild animal or a foreign enemy, now it’s no longer necessary, all thanks to that lovely greenback that you up hold as god! Money! It’s the thing which you complain about most that you lose in the divorce, notice, it’s not the loss of time with your children that you are complaining about…it’s your money. You have equated your masculinity with your earnings. Why don’t you think it would be just as easy for a working woman to equate her femininity with it as you do? The woman in the 50′s who you put on a pedestal were not all happy about their lots in life….they were purposfully manipulated to stay at home in a direct association with the new technological home machines which were invented at that time in history. Before the 50′s, there was an upsurge of woman in the workplace, growing up all the way and being their own persons. Men are allowed to go out and discover just who they are when they grow to adulcy, but women are encourgaged to turn off their growth and stay in a state of dependence, while they act as nannies and maids. They do the job which is considered in public, or as p.c as the most important job ever, but they are paid little to nothing for it. Do you expect to get paid for your job? Then a woman who cares for a house and home should also be paid. She is feeling unfulfilled, not because you didn’t buy a ferarri and take exotic vacations every year, but because she has been asked to play mommmy all day and sex kitten at night, instead of being just a person that you married. You want a wet hole to fuck, go dig one in the ground. Women are not objects any more than men are. Marriage is demeaning. It is a left over from a time when people started having personal possessions and turned people into possessions. Women were sold as possessions, and marriage is nothing more than this at the core. However, committment is still a wonderful thing. You can’t grow up and be a fully mature person in an arrangment where it is inevitable where one person will always be the one to have the final say. It is not democratic to be in almost constant subservience to someone in your own home. And yes, if the world lasts any longer in this state, than the east will eventually change towards feminism as well, simply because whenever people’s quality of life goes up, so do their expectations of priveledges. You are simply sour that you are being asked to give up some of your priveledges. It isn’t a right to be considered the HEAD of the house. Be an equal, be a friend, or get out of the HOUSE! YOU want a virtuous girl, but I’ll bet you don’t consider yourself needing to be a virgin do you? SO what does that make all the women you’ve slept with, SLUTS? That idea is not intelligent, it’s mysoginist. You are a woman hater. There will be no peace on earth for men unless there is peace on earth for women with men. If you look, almost every single time that someone tries to justify women being subservient to men, it is based on religious doctrine. And that’s because people usually say that god is a man. But, I’m still waiting for him to appear, and so are all the miserable, desperately poor people in the world under torment…..it’s time to evolve, ye neanderthals!
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Actually, I was dogged out by my husband and I was a stay at home wife. Unfortuantely, yes this culture has played havoc with a man’s ego, finaces, honour and manliness. I do apologize for the rest of the good women for that.
Men don’t give up on us. There are a few of us left. Keep being the great leader you were born to be. Show your daughter’s and your sons what a good man is.
Walk in your leadership.
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There may well be “a few” good women left. I just don’t see any gain by having 99% of men chasing after that .1% of so-called “good women”.
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